in terms of who did it best this week, citi up 10% on slashing 11,000 jobs. the morality of it, i feel sorry for people losing their jobs, but this is one of those stories where i guess a little bit of austerity was rewarded because at some point, everybody's got to pay the piper. >> you would think so. ralph, quantify your bullishness for us, if you can. a lot of houses on the street putting out their forecast for 2013 have been pretty bullish. they see this market as undervalued. they feel once we get the fiscal cliff out of the way that the market will be able to, you know, some of the cash comes back. what does that mean to you if you're bullish as well or ecstatic, as you said. >> in terms of the dow, i'm looking out about six months or so, into the first half of the year. i think that will be the bulk of the move. i think the dow could easily get to 15,000. >> in six months? >> yeah. >> okay. s&p? >> s&p is around, what, 1500. >> it's at 1416 today. >> yeah. >> 1418. >> a little over 1600. >> and is this the beginning of a new secular trend in the marke